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@LoveUnuHateexams- Thank you. My question was actually rhetorical, but yes, as you pointed out, western law makes it so, which is again based on our own cultural constructs. If the world fell into anarchy, what was once acceptable may no longer be, and vice versa.
I too hope the MENA people grow up out of their 7th century barbarism and step into the modern age. But I doubt it. Their populations are exploding.
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Yes it does.
Studies have shown that people are born gay. Other behaviours are simply people wanting to take advantage of other people's youth (usually with their wealth) but if both are able to consent ... it's up to them (more of a cultural construct).
The other things you mention are most likely the result of abnormal development, experience or some trauma - no one is born with such desires IMO. The fact that 99.999% of people find such things repulsive shows they are different.
But whatever the case, you simply don't get to lump those together with gay people and claim they are all the same and equal. They are clearly not.
I agree that gays are born that way- that's old news. But I'm sorry to inform you, those other "deviant" acts are also in the genes- all of them. Whereas zoophilia, pedophilia and necrophilia are now categorized as psychiatric disorders and homosexuality is no longer, the fact remains that gene expression and chemical imbalances are now recognized as the underlying causes of those acts. You'll have to do your own due diligence and catch up with the "new light." LOL
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I think lumping a sexual orientation in with deviant / perverted behavior will anger many people and is grossly unfair. They are not equivalent things by any stretch.
Simon, the line you are walking is very thin with that statement because as I said, the rabbit hole goes deep on the philosophical aspect of this subject. It's quite relative to everything. For example, Western culture finds marriage to a 10 year old girl disgusting but in MENA it is quite common and acceptable.
Why would a 70 year old man dating a 17 year old girl be disgusting to you not someone else or vice versa? WHO says what is acceptable and not?
A homosexual might find a zoophile disgusting and vice versa. Using similar reasoning, a homosexual might find a heterosexual relationship disgusting for the same reasons a heterosexual finds homosexuals repulsive. Who is to say what is deviant and not? What is the standard to judge this on?
This topic has no clear answers.
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I think that is a little unfair. Just because someone says they don't want the lifestyle pushed in their face doesn't make them homophobic or closet gay.
I have no problem with people being gay, having gay pride parades, getting married, having all the same rights everyone else does or whatever they want but I also don't think it's appropriate to deliberately try to shock / disgust other which is what some few do - that is what I take having the lifestyle pushed in your face to mean. There's nothing wrong to say we don't like that - the fact is I don't like loud people in general or whoever it is doing what I consider to be inappropriate things in the wrong setting, gay or straight.
It's this militant / black-white / for-us or against-us type of rhetoric that really undermines sympathy in people's situation. When people go out looking to offend so they can claim they are being persecuted and unfairly treated if they succeed.
Just act like everyone else who honors the social norms. I don't care if two people walk down the street holding hands whether they are gay or straight. If I dislike a couple making out in public on a park bench it's not because of whether they are gay or straight, it's because I think it's inappropriate.
Equality is being treated equally which also means having your behavior judged just the same as everyone else.
@Simon- Thank you for the bit of sound reasoning. I could not have said it better myself. Being at work limits my multi-tasking ability writing on this forum but as you said, some make it so blatantly obvious for the sake of making other irritated. Reminds me of this disgusting individual who suffered from some terrible intestinal disease which caused him to produce vast amounts of excess, putrid gas. He knew we all hated it so he purposely did it at the conference table, in the cafeteria, in the cubicle, just anywhere he knew it would annoy us.
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@Vidiot- I didn't leave the JW cult because they were not "conservative enough" (as if that is a bad thing) or "authoritarian enough" (too much is a bad thing) but rather because it is a family destroying cult built upon lies and interpretations of a few old senile narcissists.
When I was in the Borg, I always pondered the thought of "God" making people gay and then judging them based on their defective genetic material. No loving "God" would have allowed that.
See you have me all wrong. We are ALL just victims of the roll of the cosmic dice. I certainly don't hate gays! Just because I find their sexual affinities, shall we say, "repulsive" doesn't mean I hate them as a human.
BTW, the rabbit hole goes very deep with this one. The case made that pedophiles, homosexuals, necrophiliacs, zoophilics etc are all captives of their genetic material cannot be denied, nor should it. So the question is, which is acceptable and which is not?
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@Simon and Fredo- You guys! I'm literally LMFAO!
But have you actually HEARD THE MUSIC?
The one song sounds like a remix from a $5 Mexican mariachi street band mixed with elements of the Jurassic Park theme and Captain America! LOL I was like WTF!
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There's been a lot of research on these attitudes, some of which I've posted before.
We may assume that he means that he gets upset, when he sees two men walking hand in hand, or hugging or kissing. Why? The research indicates that heterosexual men do not generally get upset over such things, but men who are attracted to the same sex, but have deeply buried their feelings for men and persuaded themselves that those feelings are a sin or so do get upset. In other words they suffer from an internalised homophobia. My gayxjw friend (whom I guess I defend here) was once confronted with a ranting street preacher, going on and on about the sin of Sodom (which he did not understand at all). My friend turned to him and said, "Oh! I see the gay fairy kissed you too."
The guy went into meltdown.
So when you see someone like Actigall UR, you can feel sympathetic. He's having a difficult time dealing with his innermost, deeply buried feelings. If he sees two blokes kissing, he's ripped apart inside. He needs sympathy, not confrontation, as difficult as that may be in the circumstance of centuries of Christian hatred expressed toward gay people.
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Sorry bloke, but I think your projecting. You see, I'm an atheist so there is no "Christian hatred" persuading my sentiment. And I couldn't care less when two gays hold hands or whatever. On the contrary, I have a great sympathy for them and wish them well and all the luck in the world with their happiness. After all, the way I conclude, it was their defective genetic material passed down from their parents that caused them to be attracted to another man's lower digestive track. So it just as well could have been me - one giant roll of the cosmic dice, as Carl Sagan likes to say.
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OMG you're one of THOSE. And what exactly is the "gay lifestyle"? Does that mean that when my TV channel broadcasts shows like Holiday Reps (shows with lots of young drunk, vomitting, naked, straight people who have sex in the street and in nightclubs while throwing up over each other in various European holiday resorts) that they are forcing the heterosexual lifestyle in my face? Please stop with the hypocrisy or take your homophobia somewhere where it's appreciated. Rant over.
Yawn. Here's that big bad "homophobia" name calling again. LOL Do you want to add racist, bigot, misogynist and NAZI also? Sure, why not? I'll accept that. After all, I'm a white, straight male. I'm enemy number one to the libturd agenda!
Ohhh my feelings! I'm so hurt I think I'll kill myself now!
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i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.
a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.
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